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#1 floyd76

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Posted 23 April 2006 - 10:10 AM

Just got my new XS1200.....went to power it up at a gig, and was baffled by the power plug.  Never seen this before ever.  It's marked as a 120V standard version....and the power plug doesn't look like a 220V or240V plug.  The prongs (on the amp itself and on the plug) are 'sideways' (instead of the standard vertical).  Then, on the end of the AC cable one of the prongs is turned vertically from the rest.
Again, I have never seen this plug type and it will not fit into any ac outlet I've ever seen.
How do I use my new amp if I can't power it up?
I'm new....so this may be a stupid/simple oversight.

Thanks!

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Posted 23 April 2006 - 10:47 AM

Just figured out it's a NEMA 20A power cord.  
But how do I use this in standard AC outlets?
Is there an adapter or something I should use?

Thanks!

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Posted 23 April 2006 - 02:17 PM

QUOTE(floyd76 @ Apr 23 2006, 11:47 AM)
Just figured out it's a NEMA 20A power cord. 
But how do I use this in standard AC outlets?
Is there an adapter or something I should use?

Thanks!
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Hi,
Look on page 3 and catalog number 30250
Link here: Adapter Plug

You do have a 20 amp plug on the XS1200, an amplifier which has been discontinued.
It's there for a reason!
There is adaptor plugs to 15 amps but I cannot recommend their usage.
You should try and find a 20 amp plug, most commercial buildings do have 20 amp receptacles.
If this is for use in your home, guarantee that you have a 20 amp breaker and wiring and that the outlet is dedicated, without other circuits running to that same breaker, you can replace your outlet with a 15/20 amp outlet.

When practicing at a friends house, we first use a outlet tester (easily obtained at Home Depot, Ace hardware etc...) and checked the outlet, that it is correct.
Next while one person is at the breaker box, check to see just which outlets
or lights that breaker controls.
During practice we make sure that the other outlets are not used, so as to not  take power from the Amplifiers etc..
If you are lucky you will have two breakers and outlets in a room, though most houses will put one bedroom on a single Breaker.

I rent but if I owned a home which I am trying to do now, I would have dedicated power run to the Rehearsal space within it.
I am lucky that our Drummer works for an Electrical Contractor.

Tread carefully when dealing with AC power!
Depending on what other Amplifiers and Equipment that you have, you may want to consider a Power Distro.

Good Luck,
   Bud

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Posted 23 April 2006 - 04:40 PM

QUOTE(Bud Bolf @ Apr 23 2006, 01:17 PM)
QUOTE(floyd76 @ Apr 23 2006, 11:47 AM)
Just figured out it's a NEMA 20A power cord. 
But how do I use this in standard AC outlets?
Is there an adapter or something I should use?

Thanks!
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Hi,
Look on page 3 and catalog number 30250
Link here: Adapter Plug

You do have a 20 amp plug on the XS1200, an amplifier which has been discontinued.
It's there for a reason!
There is adaptor plugs to 15 amps but I cannot recommend their usage.
You should try and find a 20 amp plug, most commercial buildings do have 20 amp receptacles.
If this is for use in your home, guarantee that you have a 20 amp breaker and wiring and that the outlet is dedicated, without other circuits running to that same breaker, you can replace your outlet with a 15/20 amp outlet.

When practicing at a friends house, we first use a outlet tester (easily obtained at Home Depot, Ace hardware etc...) and checked the outlet, that it is correct.
Next while one person is at the breaker box, check to see just which outlets
or lights that breaker controls.
During practice we make sure that the other outlets are not used, so as to not  take power from the Amplifiers etc..
If you are lucky you will have two breakers and outlets in a room, though most houses will put one bedroom on a single Breaker.

I rent but if I owned a home which I am trying to do now, I would have dedicated power run to the Rehearsal space within it.
I am lucky that our Drummer works for an Electrical Contractor.

Tread carefully when dealing with AC power!
Depending on what other Amplifiers and Equipment that you have, you may want to consider a Power Distro.

Good Luck,
   Bud
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Thanks Bud,
Yeah, this amp (and 2 or 3 others....lower power) will only be used at small/medium gigs in bars/clubs.  I just may have to look into a distro.
I had no idea the xs1200 was discontinued....it's still listed as current on the crown site.  Hmm....I just got mine brand new and haven't even powered it up yet.
Thanks!
jim

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Posted 24 April 2006 - 06:15 PM

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Thanks Bud,
Yeah, this amp (and 2 or 3 others....lower power) will only be used at small/medium gigs in bars/clubs.  I just may have to look into a distro.
I had no idea the xs1200 was discontinued....it's still listed as current on the crown site.  Hmm....I just got mine brand new and haven't even powered it up yet.
Thanks!
jim


Hi Jim,
Ya know I had a Serious Brainfart when I said that the XS1200 was Discontinued!
I was thinking of the XS 4300 4 Channel amp that Crown did discontinue due to lack of Sales.
Hey, what can I say!
Sorry 'bout that!

Here is the AC draw PDF and at 30% usage, it depends on how you are planning to use this,
as to just how much it will draw in AC amps.
XS1200 AC Power Draw
I am in a R&R band and usually use 30%  when I configure how many AC amps that I need.
If you use the AC Power Draws for each Power Amp you have and how you use
those Power Amps, it will help you to make sure no breakers trip in the middle of your show!

At PSW there is talk of a PoorMan's Distro and it may or may not help you.
Link here:PSW Poorman's Distro #1

Here is more: Poorman's Distro #2

At PSW try a Search on Power Distro's and you will find much, also check out the Study Hall for just great Live Audio Information!

Safety Note and you will see it discussed in these posts,
Electricity is nothing to play with, if you do not know what you are doing!!
Consult an Electrician for help! Live to Mix and Play another Day!
Best $ you'll ever spend!

Good luck,
   Bud

#6 floyd76

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Posted 25 April 2006 - 10:00 AM

Thanks Bud,
Yeah, I'm using the amp for 2 x 4 ohm midrange cabs (approx. 200hz-1Khz, each loaded with 2 x JBL 2225....about 800W ea cab).
  
So, I will NEVER need to push this amp very much at all (feeding this speaker configuration).  I got the 1200 simply for the headroom.  

I will have to pick up one of those plug adapters, as a lot of bars we play might not have 20A outlets.  If they do have 20A outlets....I'll gladly plug directly into them (even though I'm not going to draw anywhere close to 20A).  

Thanks for all your help!!


jim