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#1 313DJ

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Posted 21 April 2012 - 02:27 PM

i'm new to the crown xti6002,here's what i have 1 xti6002, 2 srx715's,2 srx725's,and 2 srx728's,i want to know how to set the amp to get the most out of the tops right out of the box,and if i wanted to use the amp short term on the srx728's even though 1 amp will not have enough power,what will be the best settings for them,on my other amps had a parallel option on them for the subs to give both subs the same signal does the xti6002 have the same kind of option,i will only use the amp on 1 pair of speakers at a time

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Posted 22 April 2012 - 04:03 PM

QUOTE(313DJ @ Apr 21 2012, 02:27 PM) View Post
i'm new to the crown xti6002,here's what i have 1 xti6002, 2 srx715's,2 srx725's,and 2 srx728's,i want to know how to set the amp to get the most out of the tops right out of the box,and if i wanted to use the amp short term on the srx728's even though 1 amp will not have enough power,what will be the best settings for them,on my other amps had a parallel option on them for the subs to give both subs the same signal does the xti6002 have the same kind of option,i will only use the amp on 1 pair of speakers at a time

Do you have only one amp for all that gear? What other gear do you have?

The 6002 will handle one pair of 715 (1200W per speaker) or one pair of 725 (2100W per speaker) but it will not take them "to the max". The 728s needs even more power so biamp it and put the amp in dual mono, (option CH1+CH2 on the input mode, 2400W per box).

All these combos are not ideal, I would look at different amp for these speakers, even a couple of bridged 4002 would be better for the 728s (4800W per box) or the 715 (2400W per speaker), better but also not ideal.

These speakers need itech or MAi.

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Posted 22 April 2012 - 05:51 PM

thanks dakos for responding,i have a drpa,2 qsc plx 3002's,and the crown xti6002,i will either only use the srx715's with the srx728's or the srx725's with the srx728's at a time,i know having to run 3 amps will be tough depending on the venue,

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Posted 22 April 2012 - 11:35 PM

QUOTE(313DJ @ Apr 22 2012, 05:51 PM) View Post
thanks dakos for responding,i have a drpa,2 qsc plx 3002's,and the crown xti6002,i will either only use the srx715's with the srx728's or the srx725's with the srx728's at a time,i know having to run 3 amps will be tough depending on the venue,

As I said earlier, great set of speakers but you need better amplifiers to make them rock, the difference will be amazing.

In the mean time put each 3002 bridged on each driver of the 728s (2000W per driver, 4000W per box), put the 6002 on the 725 (2100W per box). This combo will work but you have allot more in your speakers...

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Posted 25 April 2012 - 02:00 PM

dakos i tested the xti-6002 on the srx725's and they sounded really good and didn't come close to clipping,couple of ?'s,out of the box the amp is set to stereo with dsp off,i wanted to know if this is the best setting on this amp for my 725's running in stereo,and i have bbe sonic maximizer with subwoofer control which i use all the time,2 dbx 166xl's only have been using 1,and a drpa that i'm not sure how to use yet and have been wondering if the use of the rta mic a must,and would the driverack make my system sound better,and last of all i had concerns on if i should keep my xti-6002 or not because of the negative things i heard about them is this a good quality amp and is it good for full range speakers and subs or just full range speaker like my 725's

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Posted 25 April 2012 - 05:42 PM

QUOTE(313DJ @ Apr 25 2012, 02:00 PM) View Post
dakos i tested the xti-6002 on the srx725's and they sounded really good and didn't come close to clipping,couple of ?'s,out of the box the amp is set to stereo with dsp off,i wanted to know if this is the best setting on this amp for my 725's running in stereo,and i have bbe sonic maximizer with subwoofer control which i use all the time,2 dbx 166xl's only have been using 1,and a drpa that i'm not sure how to use yet and have been wondering if the use of the rta mic a must,and would the driverack make my system sound better?

The advantages of the DRPA are that it has all the presets for your system components which make life easier when configuring the system. Unlike the BBE unit which uses the same values for all systems, the DRPA has different values of gain, crossover, EQ and other parameters for every speaker combo and amp it supports. It is supposed to replace the EQ and the crossover in the BBE. Use the BBE as full range before the DRPA and split the signal to subs using the DRPA. It also has feedback suppression which is very usefull.


QUOTE(313DJ @ Apr 25 2012, 02:00 PM) View Post
Last of all i had concerns on if i should keep my xti-6002 or not because of the negative things i heard about them is this a good quality amp and is it good for full range speakers and subs or just full range speaker like my 725's

Every amp has it's limitations, even the best, most expensive of them, the XTIs family limitation is sub duty, the 6002 is the best of the bunch for that application but still, it's no i-Tech. That being said, I also want to say the XTI family are very reliable amps, great for full range speakers and I am I the market for one as we speak.

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Posted 02 May 2012 - 05:49 PM

HEY DAKOS I WAS WONDERING IF GETTING A USED CROWN I-T8000 FOR MY SRX728'S WOULD BE OK,OR SHOULD I TRY AND GET A NEWER AMP I'M NOT WORRIED ABOUT INTERNAL DSP,THE CROWN I-T8000 WOULD GIVE THEM 4000 WATTS INTO 4OHMS STEREO AND I THINK THEY ONLY NEED LIKE 3200 WATTS A BOX,,I SEE THEY HAVE NEWER ONES LIKE THE HD MODEL,AND THE MAI'S WHAT DO U THINK,

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Posted 02 May 2012 - 06:02 PM

QUOTE(313DJ @ May 2 2012, 05:49 PM) View Post
HEY DAKOS I WAS WONDERING IF GETTING A USED CROWN I-T8000 FOR MY SRX728'S WOULD BE OK,OR SHOULD I TRY AND GET A NEWER AMP I'M NOT WORRIED ABOUT INTERNAL DSP,THE CROWN I-T8000 WOULD GIVE THEM 4000 WATTS INTO 4OHMS STEREO AND I THINK THEY ONLY NEED LIKE 3200 WATTS A BOX,,I SEE THEY HAVE NEWER ONES LIKE THE HD MODEL,AND THE MAI'S WHAT DO U THINK,

The older i-Techs, the 8000 especially, are my favorite amps. At that system level you should also consider the headroom you have. Since the 728s is 6400W peak and the 8000 has 6000W peak per channel, it's a great fit and will sound fenominal, just don't run them continuously at more then the 1600W they were ment to be ran at continuously (this configuration has 6dB headroom). As for the newer HD series, they still have the same 6000W peak per channel so you wouldn't hear any difference due to amp power gain. They have better processing and an extra 500W continuous per channel if that matters to you. The amp section on the MAi series is the same as the one in the i-Tech.

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Posted 03 May 2012 - 06:45 AM

OK DAKOS I WILL TRY AND GET THE I-T8000,BUT U SAID DON'T RUN THEM CONTINUOUSLY AT MORE THAN THE 1600 WATTS THEY ARE SUPPOSED TO BE RAN AT,NOW I'M CONFUSED,HOW DO I CONTROL WHAT THEY ARE RAN AT CONTINUOUSLY

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Posted 03 May 2012 - 08:45 AM

QUOTE(313DJ @ May 3 2012, 06:45 AM) View Post
OK DAKOS I WILL TRY AND GET THE I-T8000,BUT U SAID DON'T RUN THEM CONTINUOUSLY AT MORE THAN THE 1600 WATTS THEY ARE SUPPOSED TO BE RAN AT,NOW I'M CONFUSED,HOW DO I CONTROL WHAT THEY ARE RAN AT CONTINUOUSLY

With the iTechs it's pretty easy, you have two types of limiters, one for average power and another one for peak power. You should set the average power limiter to about 800W, depending on the music you play, no need to set the peak limiter to 120V.

These are the complete settings:
Peak limiters at 120V (attack .010sec, release 1 sec) and the RMS/Continuous limiters at 800W (attack 4 sec, release 6 sec).

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Posted 10 June 2012 - 11:11 PM

hey dakos i know that the i-t8000 have a average and peak limiter on it but what about the xti-6002 i will be running a pair of srx725's on it and want to power them correctly,their rating is 1200 continous,2400 program/4800 peak

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Posted 11 June 2012 - 01:33 AM

QUOTE(313DJ @ Jun 10 2012, 11:11 PM) View Post
hey dakos i know that the i-t8000 have a average and peak limiter on it but what about the xti-6002 i will be running a pair of srx725's on it and want to power them correctly,their rating is 1200 continous,2400 program/4800 peak

Only peak limiters on the XTI so you need to trick it into doing what you want by setting the attack time to a very long time, 4-5 seconds so the peaks get through and only then, if power to the speakers continues the limiter engages.